1 00:00:08,759 --> 00:00:12,471 There was that ad in the '80s that said "It's 10:00 p.m., 2 00:00:12,554 --> 00:00:14,223 do you know where your children are?" 3 00:00:14,306 --> 00:00:17,142 It's like, "Hey, parents, are your kids home?" 4 00:00:17,226 --> 00:00:20,354 And… case in point. 5 00:00:20,437 --> 00:00:22,189 -…so I thought maybe… -Mom! 6 00:00:22,689 --> 00:00:27,778 I always loved the fact that Karen was oblivious. 7 00:00:27,861 --> 00:00:29,613 -Ted! -The clueless mom. 8 00:00:29,696 --> 00:00:30,697 Is someone else here? 9 00:00:31,615 --> 00:00:34,284 She's had no idea really what's happened at all. 10 00:00:38,330 --> 00:00:39,331 Finally… 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,338 the Demogorgon does come to the Wheeler house. 12 00:00:51,009 --> 00:00:52,511 -Action! -What? 13 00:00:52,594 --> 00:00:55,847 -Mom! -Holly. 14 00:00:55,931 --> 00:00:57,808 We were talking about a Wheeler house attack 15 00:00:57,891 --> 00:00:59,518 all the way back in season one. 16 00:00:59,601 --> 00:01:02,104 It's something we put off and one reason we put it off 17 00:01:02,187 --> 00:01:05,899 is once monsters breach that house, 18 00:01:05,983 --> 00:01:07,526 it changes everything for Karen. 19 00:01:07,609 --> 00:01:09,903 And we wanted to keep that mystery alive. 20 00:01:09,987 --> 00:01:11,947 We wanted her to not know 21 00:01:12,030 --> 00:01:14,700 or get involved in what her kids were involved in. 22 00:01:14,783 --> 00:01:17,244 Whatever you saw, baby, it's just a nightmare. 23 00:01:17,327 --> 00:01:19,997 -No! Mom! -Holly comes in and… 24 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,416 At first, Karen doesn't believe her, of course. 25 00:01:22,499 --> 00:01:24,751 Like, what could this be? "You're having a bad dream." 26 00:01:24,835 --> 00:01:27,212 You've got to believe me! Please. 27 00:01:29,256 --> 00:01:32,843 But she starts to hear, you know, these banging noises from outside, 28 00:01:33,969 --> 00:01:36,221 so she makes the split-second decision 29 00:01:36,305 --> 00:01:40,142 to hide her and Holly in the bath that she's making, 30 00:01:40,225 --> 00:01:41,435 in the bubble bath. 31 00:01:45,689 --> 00:01:47,816 That scene took over 32 00:01:47,899 --> 00:01:50,986 maybe a week to rehearse and to film. 33 00:01:51,069 --> 00:01:55,198 We filmed in this bathtub with a clear wall. 34 00:02:01,204 --> 00:02:02,164 Karen? 35 00:02:04,583 --> 00:02:07,544 Day five of the Demo attack scene. 36 00:02:08,337 --> 00:02:09,671 Big swings today. 37 00:02:10,505 --> 00:02:12,215 Hopefully no misses. 38 00:02:16,136 --> 00:02:17,262 Go! 39 00:02:24,770 --> 00:02:27,606 -Cutting. Tail sticks. -Cut! 40 00:02:32,402 --> 00:02:33,862 Holly, get back! 41 00:02:35,072 --> 00:02:37,115 I don't think she's processing what she sees. 42 00:02:39,660 --> 00:02:44,831 Stay away from my daughter. 43 00:02:45,457 --> 00:02:47,376 But just goes into that natural mama instinct 44 00:02:47,459 --> 00:02:49,920 of like, "Don't mess with my kid." 45 00:02:50,003 --> 00:02:50,921 Mom, no! 46 00:02:52,714 --> 00:02:57,678 And then gets into pretty much a fist fight with the Demogorgon 47 00:02:57,761 --> 00:02:59,346 with her wine bottle. 48 00:02:59,429 --> 00:03:01,640 See, it came in handy, all that drinking. 49 00:03:01,723 --> 00:03:03,725 Just has a really good payoff. 50 00:03:12,818 --> 00:03:14,111 Cut! 51 00:03:14,194 --> 00:03:15,821 -All right, cut! -Cut! 52 00:03:15,904 --> 00:03:16,988 Cutting. 53 00:03:23,662 --> 00:03:24,955 I love working on this show 54 00:03:25,038 --> 00:03:28,417 for the obvious reason that we get to make huge monsters. 55 00:03:29,209 --> 00:03:31,628 But also Karen Wheeler's Demogorgon wounds 56 00:03:31,712 --> 00:03:32,879 were a fun one. 57 00:03:33,672 --> 00:03:35,841 It being our first Demogorgon attack that we see, 58 00:03:35,924 --> 00:03:39,094 it was important to kind of establish what they would look like, 59 00:03:39,636 --> 00:03:40,679 so every time you see 60 00:03:40,762 --> 00:03:42,597 a Demogorgon attack from that point on, 61 00:03:42,681 --> 00:03:44,474 you visually have this in your mind 62 00:03:44,558 --> 00:03:46,601 that they're this horrific. 63 00:03:47,185 --> 00:03:52,357 I've been slashed, punctured by the Demo, slashed here. 64 00:03:52,441 --> 00:03:55,068 I've lost… I'm going to be losing a lot of blood 65 00:03:55,152 --> 00:03:56,361 and my ability to speak. 66 00:03:58,405 --> 00:03:59,614 It's been really fun. 67 00:03:59,698 --> 00:04:01,450 I was very excited to read the scripts 68 00:04:01,533 --> 00:04:04,453 and really just thankful to be part of the fight 69 00:04:04,536 --> 00:04:06,413 and like really go at the monster. 70 00:04:06,496 --> 00:04:08,123 Get closer with that initial hit. 71 00:04:08,206 --> 00:04:09,666 Cara's been doing an amazing job 72 00:04:09,750 --> 00:04:12,753 of really showing the audience who Karen really is, 73 00:04:12,836 --> 00:04:14,337 that she's not who we expected. 74 00:04:14,421 --> 00:04:18,383 That she is like her daughter and would've been more like Nancy 75 00:04:18,467 --> 00:04:20,594 had life not taken her in a different direction, 76 00:04:20,677 --> 00:04:24,264 so we wanted to give her sort of a real badass moment. 77 00:04:31,980 --> 00:04:33,732 -Pick up the pace. -Vitals. Talk to me. 78 00:04:33,815 --> 00:04:35,567 Female. 46 years old. 79 00:04:35,650 --> 00:04:39,488 Nancy and Mike are both affected by Holly's vanishing. 80 00:04:39,571 --> 00:04:41,323 Because, obviously, she's taken 81 00:04:41,406 --> 00:04:45,118 but also because of how bad of shape our parents are. 82 00:04:47,746 --> 00:04:49,539 They both barely escape with their lives, 83 00:04:49,623 --> 00:04:53,168 and so I think there's like a real sort of guilt 84 00:04:53,251 --> 00:04:56,129 of us not saying something to our parents before 85 00:04:56,213 --> 00:04:57,506 on what's been going on. 86 00:05:00,091 --> 00:05:03,678 In some ways we're shooting like a sci-fi, fun show, 87 00:05:03,762 --> 00:05:06,348 but then there are these really intense moments 88 00:05:06,431 --> 00:05:09,684 that are like, "Gosh that is so devastating." 89 00:05:10,435 --> 00:05:11,978 A lot of it is the writing. 90 00:05:12,062 --> 00:05:16,233 I think, you know, those moments that the Duffers give us 91 00:05:16,316 --> 00:05:19,611 to really let those emotions shine through. 92 00:05:20,904 --> 00:05:22,030 -Cut. -Cutting. 93 00:05:22,989 --> 00:05:26,284 The Duffer brothers really care about the characters, 94 00:05:26,368 --> 00:05:29,996 and they have worked for the last 11 years 95 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,166 non-stop on this show, and their passion has not waned. 96 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,045 They've always been very collaborative, open, 97 00:05:37,128 --> 00:05:39,840 interested in our thoughts and opinions kind of directors. 98 00:05:39,923 --> 00:05:42,884 Without them and their trust in us, 99 00:05:44,302 --> 00:05:47,806 we wouldn't have the incredibly fortunate careers 100 00:05:47,889 --> 00:05:48,723 that we have now. 101 00:05:48,807 --> 00:05:51,977 It's something that any actor absolutely dreams of, 102 00:05:52,060 --> 00:05:54,104 is being a part of something like this. 103 00:06:02,988 --> 00:06:04,990 I wish… I wish I had better news. 104 00:06:05,824 --> 00:06:08,910 There's a lot of things going on in Lucas's head. 105 00:06:09,995 --> 00:06:11,580 He's reminiscing on the times 106 00:06:11,663 --> 00:06:13,957 that Max was able to have a conversation 107 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,333 and speak to him. 108 00:06:16,001 --> 00:06:20,171 I think he holds that burden of wishing he could've saved her 109 00:06:20,255 --> 00:06:21,256 in that moment. 110 00:06:21,882 --> 00:06:24,885 He feels like it's his fault that she's where she's at. 111 00:06:25,468 --> 00:06:27,470 He was there to protect her and he couldn't. 112 00:06:27,554 --> 00:06:28,680 He feels weak. 113 00:06:29,264 --> 00:06:31,558 It's a lot of guilt that Lucas is feeling 114 00:06:31,641 --> 00:06:34,936 so the best he can do is just go there every day 115 00:06:35,020 --> 00:06:36,187 and be there for her. 116 00:06:36,271 --> 00:06:39,149 Hey, Max, if my theory is right, we're running out of time, 117 00:06:39,232 --> 00:06:43,945 so if you're planning on resurrecting any time soon, now is the time. 118 00:06:47,324 --> 00:06:48,867 Which brings us to you. 119 00:06:48,950 --> 00:06:51,620 Arriving looking like Rocky Balboa. 120 00:06:51,703 --> 00:06:56,958 So basically of all the crawls, this was like the one to miss. 121 00:06:57,042 --> 00:06:59,502 Everybody has those relationships that kind of like go… 122 00:06:59,586 --> 00:07:02,380 when you know someone long enough, 123 00:07:02,464 --> 00:07:03,715 you're friends long enough, 124 00:07:03,798 --> 00:07:07,093 you go through these waves of kind of getting along 125 00:07:07,177 --> 00:07:09,387 and then sort of these growth spurts. 126 00:07:09,471 --> 00:07:11,014 This right here is your problem. 127 00:07:11,097 --> 00:07:13,767 Yeah, that's where these two characters are at right now, 128 00:07:13,850 --> 00:07:15,727 is they're maybe a little bit at odds 129 00:07:15,810 --> 00:07:19,898 but still have a real deep sense of care for each other. 130 00:07:19,981 --> 00:07:21,775 You poked the bear one too many times. 131 00:07:21,858 --> 00:07:23,777 Your concern for me is overwhelming, Steve. 132 00:07:23,860 --> 00:07:26,571 My concern? I've shown nothing… 133 00:07:26,655 --> 00:07:30,700 This is the biggest season we've ever had in terms of action, 134 00:07:30,784 --> 00:07:32,702 in terms of visual effects. 135 00:07:32,786 --> 00:07:36,331 But I think ultimately what people want is 136 00:07:36,414 --> 00:07:38,875 they want to see these characters together one last time. 137 00:07:38,959 --> 00:07:40,627 The friendships, 138 00:07:40,710 --> 00:07:42,712 the complications of those friendships. 139 00:07:43,213 --> 00:07:45,632 -I don't want to talk to you. -I don't want to either. 140 00:07:45,715 --> 00:07:46,591 Good. 141 00:07:47,801 --> 00:07:48,927 Good. 142 00:07:49,010 --> 00:07:50,011 Good. 143 00:07:54,849 --> 00:07:58,561 Everything is totally fine. Except for your mom's plan. 144 00:07:58,645 --> 00:08:00,313 No offense to your mom, but come on. 145 00:08:00,397 --> 00:08:03,483 Whereas your plan is genius. 146 00:08:03,566 --> 00:08:06,152 -You think so? -Totally. Yeah. 147 00:08:06,236 --> 00:08:09,531 Will has done such a wonderful job in the past couple of seasons 148 00:08:10,573 --> 00:08:13,576 of creating this little divide between him and his friends, 149 00:08:13,660 --> 00:08:19,082 where in the second season there's this tremendous closeness 150 00:08:19,958 --> 00:08:22,252 and togetherness and "we're all the same." 151 00:08:22,794 --> 00:08:25,088 And I think that's a common experience as kids. 152 00:08:25,171 --> 00:08:27,924 When we're little kids, we're all like, "We're all the same." 153 00:08:28,008 --> 00:08:29,259 "We're all together." 154 00:08:29,342 --> 00:08:31,720 And then as people get older and go through puberty 155 00:08:32,303 --> 00:08:35,640 and developmentally change, you feel different than your friends, 156 00:08:35,724 --> 00:08:37,851 and I think Robin sees that 157 00:08:37,934 --> 00:08:40,895 and see that he's going through something, and that he's lonely. 158 00:08:41,521 --> 00:08:45,859 Robin is kind of that supporter for Will throughout the season 159 00:08:45,942 --> 00:08:50,321 to help him find himself and come to terms with who he is 160 00:08:50,405 --> 00:08:52,824 and without her, I think he would be lost 161 00:08:52,907 --> 00:08:55,744 so it's really a special bond they form this season. 162 00:08:55,827 --> 00:08:57,495 …Mrs. Harris's class, fifth grade? 163 00:08:57,579 --> 00:08:58,997 It's so cool. 164 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,750 Though come to think of it, it's not even a mandala, 165 00:09:01,833 --> 00:09:02,876 it's just a spiral. 166 00:09:05,587 --> 00:09:07,255 -I heard laughter. -What? 167 00:09:08,673 --> 00:09:09,716 In my vision. 168 00:09:10,467 --> 00:09:12,844 Kids laughing, playing. 169 00:09:16,598 --> 00:09:19,225 What does that have to do with a monster lair? Will! 170 00:09:23,938 --> 00:09:26,399 -Where'd you learn to do this? -Max. 171 00:09:27,442 --> 00:09:30,236 First, clean. Then disinfect. Then bandage. 172 00:09:30,904 --> 00:09:32,864 You're more like me than I'd like to admit. 173 00:09:32,947 --> 00:09:35,116 What? A stubborn punk ass? 174 00:09:35,617 --> 00:09:36,618 You heard that? 175 00:09:38,078 --> 00:09:39,204 You talk loud. 176 00:09:39,954 --> 00:09:44,834 Hopper is kind of a harder man from a different time 177 00:09:44,918 --> 00:09:47,712 who doesn't know how to express himself. 178 00:09:47,796 --> 00:09:49,881 Just been around long enough to know that… 179 00:09:52,675 --> 00:09:54,969 you can't count on anything in this life. 180 00:09:55,887 --> 00:09:58,181 I think he's a deeply good guy, 181 00:09:58,264 --> 00:10:02,227 and I think he's misguided in the way that he expresses it. 182 00:10:02,852 --> 00:10:05,730 And I think there is, you know, a purpose in art 183 00:10:05,814 --> 00:10:07,690 to be able to connect with those people, 184 00:10:07,774 --> 00:10:10,902 and maybe try to reveal something about what that means 185 00:10:10,985 --> 00:10:12,195 as a person in our world. 186 00:10:12,821 --> 00:10:14,948 Which is why whatever happens from here on out, 187 00:10:15,031 --> 00:10:18,618 wherever this blood leads, I need you to do what I say. 188 00:10:19,244 --> 00:10:22,247 So don't be a stubborn punk ass like you? 189 00:10:22,831 --> 00:10:25,166 Yeah. Don't be a stubborn punk ass. 190 00:10:29,337 --> 00:10:33,633 I think he's sort of a beautiful old stalwart of a character 191 00:10:33,716 --> 00:10:36,219 that I love and I hope other people love as well. 192 00:10:39,514 --> 00:10:42,058 Mike is very much focused on the crawls 193 00:10:42,142 --> 00:10:44,686 and trying to get Vecna, and once Holly is taken, 194 00:10:44,769 --> 00:10:47,188 I think this season gets almost back 195 00:10:47,272 --> 00:10:49,607 sort of into a season one mode 196 00:10:49,691 --> 00:10:51,985 where everyone's trying to find this person. 197 00:10:52,068 --> 00:10:54,237 Did Holly ever talk to you about Mr. Whatsit? 198 00:10:55,155 --> 00:10:56,030 It's his sister. 199 00:10:56,114 --> 00:11:00,451 He's taken it upon himself to, you know, lead as part of the gang 200 00:11:00,535 --> 00:11:01,744 to try to find Holly. 201 00:11:04,122 --> 00:11:05,248 We just need your help. 202 00:11:05,331 --> 00:11:07,250 We think someone knows where Holly is. 203 00:11:07,834 --> 00:11:10,044 And knows why she was taken and where she is. 204 00:11:10,128 --> 00:11:11,921 We just don't know where he is. 205 00:11:12,005 --> 00:11:13,965 It feels like there's something coming. 206 00:11:14,549 --> 00:11:17,343 Did Holly ever say if he has a first name? 207 00:11:17,427 --> 00:11:19,846 Something scary is on the other side. 208 00:11:19,929 --> 00:11:21,681 Are the others here yet? 209 00:11:22,515 --> 00:11:26,728 I guess I've just kind of slunk off into the darkness and stewed. 210 00:11:26,811 --> 00:11:28,938 And now I'm back for revenge.